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DISCLAIMER, PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE COMMENTING THANK YOU: I love Disney, I'm not trying to convince you to hate Disney or any of the Disney heroines, my opinions are based on facts portrayed in these films, I repeat I LOVE DISNEY AND MANY OF ITS CHARACTERS. This does not mean I have to be mindlessly follow a franchise, I can still criticize something and love it. My worry of the Disney Princess franchise goes beyond 'I don't like this character just because', if you disagree with me you are free to comment but in a CIVIL manner. I won't tolerate personal insults.

In Tumblr, I follow a lot of Disney blogs especially the ones concerning confessions. After reading so many confessions and opinions I have to say that Disney has us by the balls when it comes to nostalgia. Whenever someone analyzes these movies in a intellectual manner especially the morals, fans take it as a personal attack. The reason of this is because Disney raised us as kids, they were our favorite babysitter. They told us stories, offered us quality entertainment and made us feel like we can accomplish all of our dreams. However, we are not children anymore so defending this marvelous babysitter in every single situation has got to stop because they have a huge responsibility.

Disney is a powerful company and has managed to sneak into our subconcious since we were children since the 1940's. This means that our grandparents and parents were also raised by the Walt Disney Company. Its become a staple and a huge influence in modern culture and you can't ignore this company's influence no matter how hard you try.

However, I am not here to talk about the Walt Disney Company as a whole but one of its franchises, more specifically the 'Disney Princess franchise'. Now for those who don't know, the Disney Princess franchise consists of merchendise focused on Disney's most popular female characters. There is a catch however, the line up is only limited to those female characters who are Princesses in their movie canon (This doesn't apply to all since Mulan isn't a princess) and their movie must be financially successful.

Now I'm going to talk about my own experience concerning this franchise. I was born in 1990 so I was raised by the big Disney blockbusters from the 90s. I was also raised by the golden age movies, more specifically the ones in Walt Disney's era. So early on I had Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Belle and Jasmine to choose as rolemodels. I chose Belle from 'Beauty and the Beast' since I looked like her. My first Halloween costume was her ball gown and I even had the mirror to match. However in a rational perspective I can safely say I chose Belle because of superficial reasons, mainly because she looked like me and I adored the movie more than her personality. The story, songs, design and voice acting made Belle dynamic not her personality traits. If you think about it, Belle never went through a character arc so she didn't really change. Now I love Belle with all my soul but the point I'm trying to get across is that she was more of a rolemodel than dynamic character. The same fact applies to all of the princesses in the franchise.

Then when I turned seven, I replaced Belle as my rolemodel with Megara from Hercules. I believe Megara was one of the best Disney heroines due to her progressive characteristics such as having a love interest before Hercules, being an anti-villain, and also sacrificing her life for Hercules thus helping in saving the day. She also had a very anti-princess personality she was more 'sexy' than cute, had dry wit and her design was very different. To top it all off she had a character arc and her personality and outlook on life developed as the story went along However I was disappointed that Megara didn't get much merchandise and wasn't featured in Disney Parks as much, despite being a more developed character than any of the Disney Princesses. The same applies to almost all the female characters that did not belong to royalty such as Esmeralda, Jane Porter, Wendy, and as a more modern example Charlotte LeBouff. Almost all of the Disney heroines that don't belong in the Disney Princess line up are more diverse, interesting and developed than any of the princesses and have character arcs.

Now there are exceptions to these rules. Tiana for example does go through a character arc as well as Mulan. What worries me however that Disney's most recent Princess movie features a Princess that goes back to the obnoxious Disney Princess tropes. The tropes are as follows;

1) The Princess must have a love interest and end up with one or get married. (This doesn't apply to Pocahontas if you don't count the sequels).

2)  The Princess must have a dream even if the dream itself is abstract or vague. The dream is either ignored or its realized but thanks to the love interest. She also must sing about the dream and about wanting 'more'.

3) They must have a hobby. (This only applies to some especially the modern princesses).

Now let me analyze the Princesses individually, keep in mind that these are the official princesses in the franchise.

* Snow White -
Dream: Get a prince ('Someday my prince will come')
Hobby: Cooking and domestic work.
Outcome:  Gets married and lives happily ever after as a princess.

* Cinderella -
Dream: Go to the ball ('A dream is a wish your heart makes')
Hobby: Not specified...but...singing and domestic work I suppose?
Outcome:  Gets married and lives happily ever after as a princess.

*Aurora -
Dream: Fall in love ('Once upon a dream')
Hobby: Singing (she has the gift of song).
Outcome: Reunnites with her parents. Gets married and lives happily ever after as a princess.

So far I have covered the princesses from the golden age, who are very very very similar. The only differences are the designs, voices and some hobbies but they all belong to the same trope. However I blame this more on the time period so while these princesses are the least developed and least interesting ones they can be seen as likable due to their designs, voice acting and songs. But this is all in a artistic perspective since they don't shine at all in the way they are written. If you slap on a bleh design and awful voice acting, they won't be as memorable. They are definately the least dynamic and progressive princesses.

Lets move onto the late eighties and nineties. This is the era where they tried to make more dynamic princesses but it was a hit and miss kind of ordeal.

*Ariel
Dream: First her dream was to live on land ('Part of your world'), but then it was to get married with Eric.
Hobby: Singing...um...finding things?
Outcome: Lives on land and gets married with Eric, lives happily ever after.

*Belle
Dream: To live more than a provincial life ('Bonjour', 'Belle reprise')
Hobby: Reading.
Outcome: Saves the Beast thus breaking the spell in his castle and hooks up with him (there is no wedding so they are not technically married).

*Jasmine
Dream: Doesn't want to be ordered around and be her own person.
Hobby: ...Bird keeping? Brushing her hair? Tiger training? As much as I like Jasmine, she has no hobbies,
Outcome: Hooks up with Aladdin. Again, there is no wedding till the third film.

*Pocahontas
Dream: ...Find her path....or...um...something ('Just around the riverbend'). She basically wanted the war to be over so she could be together with John Smith.
Hobby: Riding her canoe, cliff diving um...running.
Outcome: Stays home and bids goodbye to John Smith. The only Princess who doesn't end up with her love interest and doesn't get what she wants.

*Mulan
Dream: Find where she truly belongs ('Reflection), save her father from a brutal death.
Hobby: Horse back riding, martial arts, military expert.
Outcome: Becomes China's hero and returns home to her family. It is implied she and Shang start dating.

*Tiana
Dream: Get her restaurant ('Almost there')
Hobby: Cooking.
Outcome: She realizes what she lacks to be completely happy. Gets married and gets her restaurant.

*Rapunzel
Dream: See the lanterns that appear in her birthday ('I Got a Dream')
Hobby: Painting among a great amount of talents that were shoved in for the sake of it.  
Outcome: Reunites with her parents, gets married.

While these princesses are different in a superficial level, they all have at least one thing in common, especially on the outcome. Almost all of them get exactly what they want from the start of the film and have the same tropes such as a song that implies that they want more in life. Also, almost all of these princesses have the same body type, same sexual orientation, and same ethnicity (except Mulan, Tiana, Pocahontas and Jasmine) and most importantly ALL OF THEM have a love interest.

The problem with this is that this sends a messege to little girls early on in life that this is how they should be. These Princesses are not only famous characters but rolemodels so the idealize one life style that may work for some and not to all. In tumblr I constantly see people shun the idea of an overweight, crippled, asexual or even a lesbian princess because 'it will ruin their Disney experience'. This is because Disney has raised them with one idea alone.

I strongly believe that Disney needs to keep moving forward and reflect the aspect of society they cannot ignore. A lot of little girls WILL be overweight, and a lot of them will grow up to be of different walks of life. While the Disney company doesn't shun these aspects they are stuck in the 'Beautiful girl has a dream and gets married with a handsome man in the end' trope. This implies they live in their own little bubble and they don't show enough variety to make themselves look better in the eyes of critics. Since Disney has the resposibility to make children movies, their content must evolve to reflect modern times to help future generations understand the world they live in. The Disney Heroines that are more dynamic and have relatable personalities and strong character development take a back seat which is a true shame.

Now you may argue, what about Merida? She breaks almost all of the tropes. True, but Merida belongs to Pixar. This is why I sincerely wished that Merida was made by Disney to break the chain of tropes.

I truly wish Disney could make stronger Princesses in the future. Just like Sara Crewe said; I am a princess. All girls are. Even if they live in tiny old attics. Even if they dress in rags, even if they aren't pretty, or smart, or young. They're still princesses. All of us. This is the reason why I disliked Tangled so much, because it reverted to the typical Disney Tropes and a female character that was more of a rolemodel than a dynamic, developed and progressive heroine. If you take out all of Rapunzels talents, shes basically one of the golden age princesses only with a more tangible dream.

What do you guys think?
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ampharosisawesome Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2014
"I truly wish Disney could make stronger Princesses in the future."
One year later and we have Elsa XD
Great analysis!
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greatcinalone23 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013
I fully blame all of these problems with the princesses on Disney merchandise and Disney deciding to focus on these characters to promote instead of others.

Why can't they just promote a movie and that's it? I think focusing on all their characters as a whole (even the more underrated ones) would be more appealing than simply a group of sparkly princesses of a line that tries too hard to be Barbie.

I mean, I eeeeck at their merchandise. Beloved characters like Mickey Mouse or Donald that years ago were enjoyed by people of all ages are now marketed to the toddler audience. Blegh.
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Aquaphobic Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013
You holding out any hope for Princess Anna? The next disney princess? From concept art, she's blonde.

This was a fun read, you earned yourself a watcher ;D
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thank you so much :)

Aaand not really. The problem with Princess Anna so far is that they changed her completely from her fairytale counterpart 'Gerda'. I have a feeling its going to be another Rapunzel. I may be wrong but we'll see, I do hope I'm wrong x-x
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Aquaphobic Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
To be honest I'm more excited about the Snow Queen than Anna herself.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Piiaro Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorry if you've already heard this but Disney decided to stop the 'Disney Princesses' with a last TV movie about a latino (I think) girl. So later generations are most likely not going to have these influences if it works out.
And, thb, I really doubt Disney will bring out a movie with lesbian/gay couples in it for a while since it's still "new" and will probably have really negative side effects from parents/peoplewhoareagainstLGBTsandwillusekidsasanexcusetoslanderDisney.
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NorraMo Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
As a child, I had my princess-time and I bought some Disney-princess-magazines but when it came to Disney movies, I was after the magic, the adventure and the fantasy. I knew it was fairytales and princesses are part of that so I just went along with it while I got all wide-eyed at the action scenes. There was this time where I liked Pocahontas a lot but she was kicked away by the awesome Esmeralda. But I didn’t relate to or saw them as role models. I just thought they where cool.
The very first animated character I’ve ever related to is Jim Hawkins from Treasure Planet. He’s a very great character because he acts like a real teen and much-more-I’m-sure-I’ve-already-said-over-by-your-Treasure-Planet-review. And I haven’t seen Brave yet but I’m pretty sure I will like Merida. The funny thing is when I read someone’s opinion about her, that person most of the time end up talking about Jim too. A person on tumblr said this:

I love how both Treasure Planet and Brave have no romantic subplot. The heroes goes after their dreams and don’t need love at this point of life.

That made me wanna dance with joy! It’s so true! As a teen, getting married isn’t really your first thought. You’re busy with finding yourself, setting goals or trying to get accepted for what you are.

And a last thing before I end this. I wanna see a bald princess (or prince for that matter). So that children with cancer can see they’re just as beautiful as anybody else. :heart:
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I want to see a bald princess too! I see the lack of hair as something unique and in many cases beautiful :)
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NorraMo Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Beautiful indeed :D Sure, if disney would create a bald princess, it would get a lot of attention but Im sure the response would be more positive then negative. :)
Once I actually came across an old story about a bald princess. Sadly I don't remember what it was called but the princess was cursed by a witch when she was still a baby or something like that. I gonna see if I can find it again :)
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Oh! What about an Ancient Egypt story? :) Most of the women were bald!
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NorraMo Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
That would be cool to see! :D
But if you mean the story Im talking about, I think it's from france. And it's the witch's curse that made the princess bald. I forgot to say that. ^^;
But anyway, it would be really cool if disney made a movie that takes place in Egypt :)
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yeahhhh that sounds really familiar! :O Gotta look it up.
There are so many Ancient Egypt tales out there, Disney should really expand their horizons.
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NorraMo Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
Totally :)
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Psh07 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Man, at first I thought the journal was long, and then... I saw the comments section. :iconreactionplz:


I like these kind of journals. They make me think more about what I think makes a good character, story, movie, etc. :iconimthinkingplz:
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Qydra Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think Merida had a lot of tropes of her own, though. The whole "teenage rebellion" and rejection of parents' stuffy culture seems like it belongs more in the 90's than in 2012. Brave was decent, but to me Merida's character and story felt a bit overdone. I'm used to bolder premises from Pixar movies.

I do like, however, that Brave was about bridging generation gaps rather than creating them.
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yes I totally agree with the last part of your comment. Both generations have important values so its better to come together than be seperate :)

However unlike many of the Disney Princesses, Merida goes through a character arc and there is reasoning behind her motivations. She's not rebelling for the sake of it :)
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Qydra Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Good point. I guess I mean that the circumstances that caused her to rebel were kind of cliche. The whole "arranged marriage" thing and "You're a girl, so you're not allowed to do adventurous things" concepts are things that didn't feel quite as fresh to me as many Pixar plot elements are. But the movie used those elements fairly well, so overall it was a good movie. I just think movies like Finding Nemo felt a lot more original.
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I agree with you. I do like Finding Nemo better :)
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eatpraylove Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Allow me to introduce the most recent (and badass) exception: Merida, from the recent Disney/Pixar collab "BRAVE." :iconmeridaplz: None of the men in that movie, particularly not the three princes competing for her hand, get taken seriously (except during the bear-hunting sequence near the end). Nor is Merida a fan of the many things a Scottish princess of her era is expected to do and be. Yes, she has two hobbies (horseback riding and archery, both of which she rocks at), and she does have a dream (live a less restrained, idiotic-prince-free lifestyle). She even gets a little bit of character development in the part where her mom gets turned into a bear and they have to last for a while in the forest, I think. Unlike these other fine ladies, though, she stays single. Her mom even joins her on a riding expedition!

I agree with what you say, but I just wanted to point out that little tidbit. /PSA
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I do mention Merida but she's more of a Pixar creation than Disney :) Hopefully she csan be added to the franchise.
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aggielexi Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh damn your right. I always thought Milan stood out...but not by much, she never really changed her ideals. This put some good light on the subject
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Requiemachina Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Disney? My babysitter? pfftno.

I was raised on books :icondivaplz:

"...Disney is a powerful company and has managed to sneak into our subconcious since we were children since the 1940's. This means that our grandparents and parents were also raised by the Walt Disney Company. Its become a staple and a huge influence in modern culture and you can't ignore this company's influence no matter how hard you try. "

This is why my thoughts on Disney is dead.
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I was raised on books too. Animation is a great way to make kids creative as well, Disney inspired me to be a storyteller.

Its not dead, Wreck it Ralph was an excellent movie they just need to go on the right path and not rely on safe movies like Tangled.
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Requiemachina Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
I never liked Disney because they're all a bunch of happy-go-lucky jerks and all. I remember how my older sister and my cousins used to like the princesses and I was tearing their doll's hair out and cried whenever I saw a movie about them.

Wreck it Ralph is a so-so movie for me, but I have this theory that soon Disney will take over the world and play with people's minds like monopoly, and I'm just trying to save myself. :shrug:
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Alright, is fine if you don't like Disney and have different opinions and all but their movies are famous for a reason. Because of Disney there wouldn't be any animated films or even anime so its a legacy that should be appreciated. Sure it has its flaws but what company doesn't?

Several famous animators and talent made up Disney such as Glen Keane and Chris Sanders. Even if their stories aren't perfect there is talent and artistry in their films that should be at least aknowledged and respected.

Calling Disney simply 'happy go lucky jerks' doesn't exactly win an argument since its a huge company that has an insane amount of talent put into it. There are jerks in the Disney company of course, what company doesn't have jerks? But they are not malicious and evil. Thanks to them, they made a lot of people happy including myself. I suffer from anxiety attacks and whenever I listen to Disney music or watch Beauty and the Beast I feel happy.

All I'm saying that its fine for you to dislike something but you have to respect the people who were positively influenced by it :) Have a little more tact please ^^;
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Requiemachina Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Oh no, that is just my opinion.

I always think everyone is evil and stuff. I do admit they have hugely insane talent there and all though :)

I'm sorry.
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Its okay :hug:! My dad dislikes Disney and makes fun of me for liking it hahahah, but he admits that it did leave a good legacy in film making (he studies film so Disney was a big part of his studies even if he didn't study animation!) But yes, Disney makes a lot of mistakes and can be a dick, which is why I made this journal hahahha
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Requiemachina Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
Disney is a dick?
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
A jerk hahahah
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xxscrumxx Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
ALSO, I wanna add this: The Princesses are like 16 and older....well I thought about it and I can't think of ANY little girl I've met(and yeah I've been around a lot of kids too) who would look at those princesses and make the connection "Oh they're really skinny and beautiful, I'm not. I need to have a body and face like them or I'm worthless and not important." I just don't think little girls make that connection because they don't pay deep attention to that sort of thing. Yeah maybe once a girl is preteen she might, but in this day an age a lot of 12 year olds are too busy caring about Twilight and Selena Gomez and all that other stuff, I can't see a lot of them making the connection to the princesses either, OTHER stuff yes, but not the princesses. It's the same with Disney having all these gorgeous preteens, like Miley Cyrus and Selena Gomez who are the NEW role models for young girls, they're a franchise too and I personally believe they send a worse message than the princesses.
If you think about it every other cartoon has skinny beautiful female leads, and there are big companies other there that do it with just as much influence. I think little girls would pay more attention to characters their own age, when it comes to looks.... for example Lilo. And Lilo is designed to look like a healthy sized normal little girl, Disney didn't design her to look all skinny and perfect...because she's not a "sexy adult" yet. BUT even her sister, I forget her name, has nice bigger curves. I know this debate is about princesses because they're a big selling franchise but when Lilo and Stitch first came out I remember it being extremely popular and there was a lot of merchandise for it, it was a movie kids bought into...if only Lilo was included into the Princess franchise. =P

One other observation....Disney designed almost ALL their characters skinny minny, like I'd say 80% of them. (of course it always depends on the artistic style) But I mean tons of characters are skinny minnies it's just the way their drawn: Jafar,maleficent, Megera(super skinny), PINOCHINO(that dudes a stick, HAWHAW),little bnoy from jungle book (dunno how to spell his name :P) cruella devil(yikes)....let's just say that most villains are unhealthily skinny...NOT because it's appealing but because...well I dunno. Someone mentioned how Ursella is really fat and also evil and they made that connection? Well, why is there a connection. There are tons of evil skinny guys..but I can't really think of any bigger villains besides her and the Queen of Hearts. It's not like Disney was saying Ursella is evil therefore she is fat. Even the animals are drawn skinny like Rita from Oliver and Company, the siamese cats from Lady and the Tamp, sometimes it's just the way the characters are. YES, there is an unbroken pattern of skinny princesses but I really don't think that is the message Disney was trying to send. That is just the way they are designed. And yes they're all very pretty but I mean...I think most ALL disney characters are drawn pretty...even the two ugly step sisters from Cinderella...I think they're drawn pretty! I think Ursella looks pretty(maybe I'm just crazy), and all the female animals are just drawn to look pretty/beautiful. It's the style of animation I guess...they want the characters to look pleasing to the eye and so they draw what humans of this society naturally like.
I just really don't see a whole lot of proof that Disney Princesses are affection young girls and sending the wrong message. :/ Again, just different opinions.
(And sorry, sometimes I do get a little off track with the original point the other person was trying to make :P)
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Its fine if you don't see itt or disagree but I'm not pulling these facts out of thn air.
I wasn't refering to little kids specifically but to anyone who was raised by Disney. I really don't care what Disney's intention is, actions speak louder than words. The fact is that their main female characters are the same mold and their male characters are more dynamic and interesting. Again, why can't there be a Princess with glasses or a deformed Princess? There has been male Disney heroes like that, why not heroines? Because in the media women have to be pretty or sexy. Its a big problem because reality is NOT like this, and please don't give me the 'its a fairy tale' excuse because fairytales are supposed to be lessons and teachings of real life.

This is a problem because that is all little girls are exposed to and not diversity. They will have one idea of beauty, and it affects them. I've seen it in action. When they become teens the want to be skinny and flawless like the rolemodels they were exposed when they were younger. This is why Mattel made Barbie's waist thicker and why the Bratz dolls were so criticized, it wasn't because parents felt like complaining.

My point is that Disney has so much power to influence people but they are stuck in one love story and do it over and over when it comes to their fairytale movies. They promote the same idea 'follow your dreams' which is getting very juvenile and old. They can do excellent movies and its a waste they are stuck in a never ending loop. You have no idea how a HISPANIC princess would've helped me, or a disabled Princess would've helped a little disable girl. They would remind them to embrace their differences, and women need this more than ever because they are constantly portrayed in the media as sex symbols or one idea of beauty making them doubt their self worth. How do you think eating disorders start out?

Like someone above me said, 'With great power, comes great responsibility'. While its not Disney's fault why these things happen they are only contributing to the problem.
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xxscrumxx Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Yes they should have more dynamic female leads, and they're making progress but there is far to go. And yeah, what I was getting at is that it's not all on Disney, the princess franchise isn't the only one doing this to little kids, and I don't even think the Disney franchise is playing as big a part in it as you think. The princesses are harmless, but it would be fantastic if they improved and,yes, had a princess with glasses or a little more plump. It's true they do seem to be stuck in a loop, but again people like that.
They don't have a hispanic princess, but they have many other races included. And there is still time for them to make many more princesses, and I have a feeling they will. xD
If Disney had a plump princess or a disabled princess, it may help but people would still doubt their self worth, they would still get eating disorders the cycle would continue.

That is true they are contributing to the problem BUT I feel they're doing a lot better than other medias out there.
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Stilith Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
And yet again, I agree. geez, how many times have I said that now? >_>

I think Rapunzel should've been the one to be in a wheelchair. It would add some much needed darkness (as in spending the entire movie wondering how that happened and then it turned out that it was the witch that broke her legs so she wouldn't escape but maybe that's too dark now that I think about it oops.) around her character, make the running-away scenes a lot more interesting and hey, the dancing scene would've had that extra spice. The group hug at the end might've been a little bit more awkward, but yeah. Most of it would've been more interesting to me that way.
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Huh, that is interesting. Dark but interesting :)
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Stilith Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Yey!
oh, and it would've given extra meaning to the horse being there whatever his name was. :XD:
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Maximus hahahah yes it would've.
That movie was such wasted potential @-@
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Stilith Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
I actually liked it, but even I have to agree that it was pretty darn bland. I fall for pretty colors and forced slapstick. >_>
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manga-ranga Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Very well said :clap:

To be honest, I never really liked any of the princesses, I was too distracted by side/background characters and the villains to pay them any attention. They were just kinda there like props to move the story along :XD: When it came to female characters in Disney films, I think the only ones I liked (to the point of buying their dolls) were Megara, Mulan and Esmeralda. Now as an adult, I still love those three ladies... ok, maybe Tiana gets added to the list because her movie was pretty cool.

These days I think Pixar makes far superior children/family focused films. I mean seriously, Brave was epically awesome compared to all previous 'princess' films.
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ChrissietheArchen Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
now that you point it out your right!!! I guess it's also a age thing too. When your younger (e.g 5) you rarely see developed characters with typical dreams. But as you get older (for some) you see more developed characters, but they all seem to link back to disney princesses. Also everything else developed so, they went away. Now i aim for diverse characters with interesting bases(at eg 12). Since i've moved a bit from disney. Yet i still adore that style!!! <3 But the only way i got 3D characters was learning on my own so... yeah
(E.g a shiny cranidose that wears a pink scarf. As a legit character. Started because my collaber recommended gender bender.)
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maxinethebean Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I remember when I was very small my favorite princess was Ariel but only because she got to live underwater and Eric was extremely handsome to me and that was my dad's name. As you can tell I was extremely young when I liked this! My favorite "princess" after about age 8 was then Megara as well and Hercules became my favorite Disney movie. She was so sassy and uninterested in Hercules and it just made me like her that much more. When I went to Disney when I was about 9, I was so upset that I didn't see her there. I would love to see a different princess in modern times like you said: heavier, handicapped, lesbian, etc. as long as Disney could manage to pull it off without making it seem like they forced those traits. But all in all I just wanna see more princesses like Meg. Simply caring for themselves and doing what they think is right without a man at all. I wouldn't mind watching that at all, but I don't think Disney believes anyone would without the love interest. :/
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
As our minds get more complex we start to appreciate deeper Disney characters like Meg. Disney is just very afraid to portray characters outside the 'pretty nice girl mold' as Princesses with the exception of Tiana.

Its fine to have a love story but its the same love story over and over. Handsome man meets beatiful girl, they fall in love. Beauty and the Beast and Mulan kinda breaks this trope but that is the only exception I can think at the top of my head.
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maxinethebean Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Yes you don't ever see heavier girl getting handsome guy or vice versa, or average girl getting average guy. It sets pretty high standards for people because we really don't often look as great in a seashell bikini as Ariel or can be living in the wilderness and still look like a model like Pocahontas. Its good to have imagination when it comes to these fairytale movies but there's still the need to relate to them to an extent and I think if Disney made the princesses more like us then the movies would be even more of a hit than they are.
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streakpie Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Writer
This journal. Promote it.

I love Disney. I really do. I adore it. But, to quote Spiderman, 'with great power comes great responsibility'. And I personally think they're throwing that responsibility away and flaunting their power over young girls (and boys, too, of course, but I think imbuing little girls with morals is a slightly bigger problem), by being too cowardly to take a step out of their comfort zone and try to spice up their female characters and make a little girl feel a little better about herself, and ultimately maybe a better person.

Children absorb so much when they're young, they act out Disney movies and dress up as characters and all that, and Disney're just feeding these archetypes and promoting the idea that anyone chubby, ugly, single, or gay isn't right. It doesn't help that nearly every villian/ess are portrayed as fat or ugly. I'll use Ursula as an example-- now, I love Ursula with all my heart and soul. I love her like I've never loved an half octopus half woman before. But that fact that every single merperson and human have basically the same facial structure (Ariel's sisters, anyone?) and apart from minor modifications are trim and exactly the same, then the evil person rocks up with a more realistic body shape and facial structure and is immediately dubbed 'the bad guy', even though I can say with confidence both my grandma and great aunt bear a slight resemblance to Ursula and I've never seen anyone (who hasn't had plastic surgery) who looks like Ariel.

I know that some argue that kids are ignorant, naive and pure and don't bully-- but it's that ignorance that makes them the most notorious bullies of all. A perfect example is kids who grew up in rich white areas. They are unconventionally racist (a good example is of my friend's buddy-- him being an exchange student from China, and he had to endure borderline racism as his six-year-old buddy loudly wondered aloud whether he could see properly when his eyes were stretched so tight), and the great majority of children have an idea of what society should be and just have trouble processing anything that goes against that.

A good example is heterosexuality. I know that many young children (or at least the ones I've known) just can't add this together. To them, Man + Man = WHAT NO. Woman + Woman = WHAT NO. I honestly think they just can't process it because homosexuality is such a taboo. From personal experience, I know that sometimes that the combined fact that somebody doesn't want a relationship with a man and instead would rather marry a woman baffles children and the only conclusion they can come to (unless they had amazing insightful parents who explain this shit to them instead of taking the easy way out) is that you shouldn't. You simply shouldn't.

Again, things like deformity, dwarfism, or cripples in any way shape or form-- I don't think that's as foreign and unheard of to children, but they still just can't put two and two together. Media has given them a perfect image of what a human being should look like and amputation and wheelchairs just don't fit into the picture.

Mental disability is another really big thing. Especially with something like downs syndrome or autism. Especially autism. My brother has Asperger’s, and up until recent years it's been very obvious he was mentally disabled and he was bullied mercilessly-- and this is especially bad with a child with Asperger’s, because they're so obsessed and affected by the way others view them. He had to go to a special school for autistic children for a year to get back on his feet because children just couldn't accept someone with something the matter with them.

And Disney has the power to change that-- they can promote the idea that there's nothing wrong with being disabled, or not having a perfect body, or being single, or being gay. But they don't. And it just burns me up, frankly. I'd cut off my left arm to see a Disney princess with a cut off left arm. I'd pay my weight in gold to see a pair of lesbians in a Disney movie. Or at least a princess with some physical imperfections-- a mole or a freckle, a crooked nose, webbed toes, or something. A princess. Not a prince or hero. Not a side character. Not a comic relief. A princess. A realistic character children can idolise without it giving them unrealistic expectations and prejudices. I think Disney has all the influence it needs to empower little girls and let them know that they CAN be more than a wistful housewife. They can go on adventures, they don't have to marry a prince, and they don't need to be rescued.

They've leaned toward achieving this-- with movies like The Hunchback of Notre Dame and The Princess and The Frog, and with characters like Meg and Mulan. If I ever get kids the first movie I'll shove under their nose is The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Followed closely by The Lion King. I think Nala is particularly underrated in her badassery. True, most of her character development is done off screen while Simba is gallivanting around in the jungle with Timon and Pumbaa, but she's very competent and fights in the final battle, and doesn't submit to Simba's every whim, challenging him to do the right thing rather than waiting back at the Pridelands for him to show up and rescue her from Scar. And being a lion, there aren't many body image tropes to fill. XD If anything I think Nala looked more muscular and lean than trim and feminine.

I've yet to see Brave, but I'm incredibly excited. I'm trying not to stumble by any spoilers but I think I'm going to like Merida very much. Pixar doesn't have the same power Disney does, unfortunately, but definitely play a part, and I think they're leading the way to competent and imperfect female leads. Their female characters, even in older movies, tend to be more complex.

All in all, I'd like to write a very angry letter to Disney but I love them too much. And honestly they still make good movies. But they have a tendency to stoke stereotypes and corrupt little kids and I'd like to see that rectified.

I think I may have repeated a lot of what you said, but... I just agree with you so much. XD; Really. I just cannot begin to beseech Disney how badly I want them to continue on where The Princess and The Frog was going and NOT send it all tumbling down because of Tangled (which I think needs to be cast into Satan's pit).

I think I may have just typed a lot of words. Sorry about that. XD
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AnAwkwardBlue Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Yes! Also, I have Asperger's too, although not as serious as your brother does. (I'm sorry to hear about it.) It would make me happy to see a Disney princess with Asperger's or a social problem. Has anyone noticed that most of the princesses are not usually in many social situations? Almost all of the princesses hang with animals or misfits of some sort, but when a social event comes along, BOOM! everybody likes them and doesn't judge them for talking to mice. It's great that they promote animal love, but kids don't really get a good idea on not fitting in or bullies. That's why I really liked the movie Enchanted, because it was a Disney princess type in the real world being herself even though it was odd (absolutely loved the animals doing domestic work in an apartment!)and how waiting around for your prince to save you doesn't work. Disney should make a more realistic princess with realistic problems so little girls can learn from an early age what's right and wrong and not what's "right" and "wrong".
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Your analysis is very insightful and very true :) As a kid I also loved Nala! She doesn't take Simba's shit and well they grew up together so it makes sense they hook up in the end.

The Spiderman quote is exactly what I mean, Disney has so much power and so much influence and so many good stories but they are stuck in one place. The world needs a more variety of rolemodels and characters so there can be more acceptance. I know that Disney supports gays and has 'Pride' days on their parks so why don't they do a lesbian princess movie? Or a gay prince movie? Perhaps the world 'isn't ready yet' but now that ParaNorman took the first step, I think we should follow this path.

So many little girls with insecurities will love to have a Disney princess rolemodel to tell them that its alright to be who they are, flaws and all.
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AstralMu Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I dunno if she even counts at this point, since I don't see her as a Disney princess, but what about Lilo? I mean, her dream was to have a friend or to fit in, she had no love interest, and her hobbies included art, hula dancing and making Scrump (at least, I think it did). She got her dream with Stitch coming into the picture too. I think she'd be a pretty good role-model for girls who feel like they don't belong.
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
But she isn't a Disney Princess. I was referring to the line up of Princesses that are used in the 'Disney Princess' franchise. They are the ones that are portrayed as rolemodels for little girls.

Megara, Lilo, Esmeralda, Jane Porter, Charlotte are great characters but they are in the background as supporting Disney characters not Princesses.
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AstralMu Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I understand now. :3
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KMCStudio Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This makes me curious... have you seen the show Once Upon a Time?

This is something I've been trying to explain to my family for a long time. I never looked up to a Princess because I felt like they were all a bit too... perfect. Mulan was an exception, because she broke the mold to a point, and wasn't risking her life chasing a selfish dream; her first motivation was to help her father. And gosh, Tangled irked me from the start because while I... kind of... see a rationalization (very, very loose rationalization) for Rapunzel's insane amount of talents, it really bothered me because of what it portrayed to others. Yes, children, you have to excel in EVERYTHING. And then you will become a princess! And her dream had nothing to do with her ability to paint (or anything else). Okay, she painted the lanterns. But did she become a great painter in the end or something awesome like that? Nope. Princess. Which is why I have a soft spot for Tiana; her dream focuses on what she likes to do. Not to mention black, New Orleans princess. YES.

Partial venty because as I said, this kind of thing has been bothering me for some time, so I most certainly agree. xD
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Kittengoo Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Nope! I frankly don't have time or patience for shows ^^ ; I might check it out someday though since I heard good things from it!

And yes I agree with you. Tiana was progressive but with Tangled they took a step back x-x Those kind of things frustrate me so much.
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